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Post by mickthecactus on May 6, 2023 14:37:36 GMT
Up on the balcony with the crowns and robes it looked like Toytown.
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Post by Kimby on May 6, 2023 15:48:46 GMT
Was Harry on the balcony?
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Post by mickthecactus on May 6, 2023 15:58:38 GMT
Already on his way home apparently.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 6, 2023 15:59:28 GMT
Was Harry on the balcony? I don't think so just the working royals and the grandchildren. Both Camilla's and Charles'. But I was preparing lunch so might have missed him.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 6, 2023 16:58:02 GMT
Whilst it may be visually stunning it's also a bit puffed up and bumbly. The days of jingoistic crowing should be behind us. It feels very out of date..but unfortunayely it's also strangely fascinating. Sums it up! Charles looked like he was having the worst day of his life. Probably true. I think he already had the worst day of his life when his mother died. I've wondered if she didn't extract a promise from him that he'd carry on, whether he wanted to or not. And yes, I do sound like one of those morons who pronounce on celebrities whom I do not know. Up on the balcony with the crowns and robes it looked like Toytown. When I saw the balcony picture my reflexive thought was that they looked ridiculous, but I squelched it out of loyalty to poor old Charles. Here is easily the best, most beautiful part of the whole shebang ~
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Post by Kimby on May 6, 2023 18:11:55 GMT
I had to watch, it’s the first British coronation to happen in my lifetime. And might be the last if Charles lives as long as his Mum.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 6, 2023 18:13:29 GMT
Watching the recap on the evening news, I noted two things:
1. Those people with crowns on the balacony look completely ridiculous. 2. Prince Harry seems to be the only real human being in the family. The others are all puppets.
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Post by Kimby on May 6, 2023 18:52:33 GMT
Some would argue Harry is a puppet, but with Meghan pulling his strings instead of the crown.
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Post by whatagain on May 6, 2023 19:31:38 GMT
I am becoming a republican. 🤭 At least if you have a coronation, and a Disney like decorum, the king and queen could be young. I don't think these 2 will make any young girl dream of a charming prince marrying the beautiful girl or princess.
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Post by lugg on May 6, 2023 19:49:38 GMT
I had decided that I would not watch it ...but I did , for lots of reasons but mostly because I just happened to be looking after Enzo and if ever there was a historic moment for us to be together this was it. Of course he did not understand anything about it really, but we enjoyed many parts together ; including the instruments being played during some of the quite wonderful music, " Whats that Grandma ?" ... "it is a harp / trumpet / violin etc etc ..
" Whats that Grandma ? " it is the King's throne and it is home to a huge stone from Scotland . I would have loved to have explained more about the history but ....
And of course I explained to him about the roles of the various horses ... and wow those horses . There were so many, so beautiful and particularly the Windsor Greys and the Shires were magnificent .
And just for Bixa ..."Here is easily the best, most beautiful part of the whole shebang ~"
Enzo described her as a butterfly
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Post by bixaorellana on May 6, 2023 22:15:43 GMT
Awwww. Beautiful little Enzo already has an appreciation for beauty. And what a bright little guy to notice everything and want to know about it all. I don't doubt that you were enthralled with all the high class horsies, too.
It's a good thing he's a little boy & was with his level-headed grandmother for this historic event. As I've related before, I was let loose with a box of coronation paper dolls for the last coronation when I was Enzo's age. The rest is history, as I was left with a not-pathological, but still present case of royal-watching.
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Post by lagatta on May 6, 2023 22:28:02 GMT
I think Livia rolled over,snuffing out my response... Anone who can find it is welcome to contribute.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 7, 2023 16:39:59 GMT
Initially I felt sorry for Harry. His childhood was terribly traumatic and he obviously has issues. I don't think that he should have aired the family's dirty linen in public, especially as they can't fight back. Charles tried that once after Diana did the Panorama interview where she laid all the blame for their failed marriage (rightly or wrongly) at his feet. A short while later Charles was interviewed on tv. Nothing good came of it. So now the working royals don't talk about such personal matters...they close ranks and deal with their business in private.
Meghan was obviously unhappy and nobody wants that. I don't think that there is a person of an ethnic background (other than caucasian) in the UK who hasn't been the victim of an inappropriate or offensive comment...no matter how 'innocently' made.
Kate is very popular over here and receives a predominantly positive press, whereas Meghan's reasonable request for privacy wasn't well received by the media...the tabloids were very cruel. I don't blame her for wanting to go home...Harry seems to be doing quite well in America, his book is a best seller. I'm not interested enough to read it.
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Post by onlyMark on May 7, 2023 18:32:30 GMT
Harry is as independent of thought as an amoeba. In fact he failed to be one of those as well because he lacks even the basic intelligence to sub-divide. Meghan realised she was a small fish in a big pond so she splashed around to make as big a set of ripples as she could to be noticed. When that didn't work she saw he has/had a large arsenal of ammunition against the royal Family and their way of life, the inside track, so like an artillery spotter, she directs him where and how to use it to its fullest effect. She is the brains and the manipulator in their relationship. It is far from an equal one. Harry has found some else to tell him what to do and he's quite happy with that.
I like the Royal Family as a whole and in principle but it wouldn't bother me of they all stepped aside and we didn't have one any more.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 7, 2023 19:19:55 GMT
I really enjoy how the Harry haters love to speculate on all of his faults just because he escaped the toxic Windsor swamp.
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Post by mickthecactus on May 7, 2023 19:42:07 GMT
I don’t have an insight into the Royal household so am unable to comment.
Plus I don’t read the Sun.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 7, 2023 20:20:36 GMT
I agree with onlyMark's assessment. Harry is a whiny little twerp married to his alter ego.
But enough of character assassination -- we must get back to important stuff, to wit: what the living doodoo was that purple pj top? wizard costume? lounging ensemble? Charles had on under the capes & stuff?
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 7, 2023 20:26:33 GMT
I really enjoy how the Harry haters love to speculate on all of his faults just because he escaped the toxic Windsor swamp. I'm indifferent to all of them tbh. Brits react very strangely when confronted with royalty. When the Queen came to open a new wing at the Leicester Royal Infirmary my largely republican colleagues lost their cool completely and got very excited. (Royalty and politicians don't tend to visit labs, no good publicity photo opportunitie...but the new wing was the next building which couldn't be seen from the lab windows) I said 'If you're that desperate to see her I don't mind holding the fort' and they were out of the door before I finished the sentence!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 7, 2023 20:37:01 GMT
.....'The newly-crowned King, wearing his Imperial State Crown for the first time, switched into an outfit of regal purple splendour for his departure from his coronation ceremony.
Charles moved to St Edward’s Chapel behind the High Altar to change into a newly-made purple satin Coronation Tunic, trimmed with gold artillery lace, and George VI’s grand purple silk velvet Robe of Estate.
The purple Coronation Tunic was made by traditional royal robe makers Ede and Ravenscroft and the design was inspired by similar tunics worn by Charles’s great-grandfather George V and grandfather George VI at their coronations.
The King wore his Garter Star and Garter Collar decorations'....
Well you did ask...
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Post by bixaorellana on May 7, 2023 22:39:26 GMT
Thanks! Honestly, I (charitably) thought maybe it had been produced by a workshop of one of his charities, perhaps one with an entry-level home ec class.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 8, 2023 3:19:53 GMT
British royalty always eliminates anybody with any backbone. Although they are not all killed now like they were in the past, let's not forget that Edward VII had to abdicate because he dared to love a divorced woman. Any possible children were also excluded from the royal family. Since then, the family has only spawned worms who accept all the rules and live unhappily. Princess Margaret comes to mind, not to mention Prince Charles, also forced to marry someone he did not love. The weak ones stay while the rebellious ones are cancelled. Rule Britannia! But worm farms generally end up as fish bait.
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Post by onlyMark on May 8, 2023 6:30:29 GMT
You need to add one on to VII to get VIII. Your version of him having backbone is one explanation. The other is he was emotional stunted, having the development of a horny and petulant seventeen year old, well known to be sympathetic to the Nazi ethos and became entwined with a twice divorced woman known for her manipulations - and affairs. At the time of her relationship with Edward she was also knocking off a car salesman, a Duke and with Joachim von Ribbentrop, the German Ambassador to Britain. What you see as backbone I see as no more than childish infatuation and childish stubbornness.
One could interpret that it isn't the ones with backbone who leave, they stay, it's the weak ones who go. But having a sample of just two people who are coincidentally in the thrall of their partners who also display similar characteristics, had/have difficult relationships with their parents and who are weak in character may not be a large enough sample to prove what you or I say.
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Post by onlyMark on May 8, 2023 6:37:36 GMT
I really enjoy how the Harry haters love to speculate on all of his faults just because he escaped the toxic Windsor swamp. The "just because", meaning the sole reason, gives the impression that those who stayed do not have their faults speculated upon. They do though, don't they? Not an exclusive situation to Harry. I'm certainly glad though I'm not part of the Firm.
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Post by bjd on May 8, 2023 6:41:22 GMT
I must say I agree with Kerouac here. All these comments on Harry and Meghan's characters by people who have never met them, will never meet them and can only go by various media reports are silly. The same goes for various celebrities actually.
Given that Harry did two terms of service in Afghanistan and does work for wounded veterans, I found his being stripped of his military uniform at QE2's funeral nasty. He held up his head then and did so at the coronation too, even though he wore a suit and no royal trappings. Princess Anne dressed like a Ruritanian general both at the funeral and the coronation even though she is only a "patron" of some military things looked intended to make Harry look like a complete outsider.
In the case of the royals, entitlement comes with the upbringing, so it's not surprising that he expects from life what appears to be whining to outsiders.
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Post by monetsmum on May 8, 2023 8:49:15 GMT
Up on the balcony with the crowns and robes it looked like Toytown. I thought pantomime.
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Post by monetsmum on May 8, 2023 8:52:47 GMT
Watching the recap on the evening news, I noted two things: 1. Those people with crowns on the balacony look completely ridiculous. 2. Prince Harry seems to be the only real human being in the family. The others are all puppets. My thoughts exactly! It was good to see Harry smiling and looking so confident. Many of the gutter press were speculating that he'd pose a very sad figure. I saw the opposite, though I din't watch the whole thing.
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Post by monetsmum on May 8, 2023 8:56:55 GMT
I don’t have an insight into the Royal household so am unable to comment. Plus I don’t read the Sun. I'm very glad to hear that Mick, I knew you had a brain.
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Post by mickthecactus on May 8, 2023 8:58:42 GMT
I don't agree with Mark about Harry but Edward and Mrs Simpson were a totally odious pair of Nazi sympathisers.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 8, 2023 9:56:35 GMT
I don't agree with Mark about Harry but Edward and Mrs Simpson were a totally odious pair of Nazi sympathisers. Wasn't the whole family considered to be Nazi sympathisers back then? Very clever to change their name from Saxe-Coburg to Windsor. The placid British public probably never even noticed.
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Post by bjd on May 8, 2023 10:50:26 GMT
They changed their name to Windsor in 1917! Not Nazi sympathizers then but the Saxe-Cobourg-Gotha sounded too German in the midst of WW1.
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